Interview Testimony by Barbara Turkeltaub

I usually was a very good girl and listened, very conformed to what I needed to do. That one particular day that looked such a nice day early in the morning, we were very early up. We were up 6 o'clock, because there was a mass in the morning. They had a little chapel, and they went to mass and they took us there, too. My sister was not very often there, because she wouldn't sit, but they took me almost every time.

Now, after the mass, we would go and have a breakfast. And after the breakfast, it was a quiet time. So during that quiet time, which was still very early, I venture. I didn't remember that I wasn't supposed to, and I ventured.

The forest was right there, very close by. So I went into the forest, and I went a little bit farther, and very curious, wasn't frightened at all. And I didn't have to go very far from there.

I started to hear this noises-- pa, pa, pa-pa-pa-pa, pa. I didn't really associate this with shooting, because it sounds different, I don't know. Anyway, I went towards the sound, and I didn't go very far. I saw this huge ditch. And around that, I began to hear also voices.

And I saw a group of women, and they were undressed. And some of them were holding babies in their arms. And the Germans were shooting randomly, and they were falling.

I was so stunned. I couldn't move. I was just hypnotized, I was there. And very soon afterwards, somebody grabbed me and carry me again from there. And that was one of the nuns, older nuns.

And she was telling me, "that is forbidden, you are told not to venture, you were told not to go, you have not listened to us, it's very bad."